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		<title>By: speaker of truth</title>
		<link>http://eskimobliss.com/2008/05/02/wtf-twop/#comment-1435</link>
		<dc:creator>speaker of truth</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 06 Jun 2010 02:36:59 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>My account was suspended for exactly the same thing! I was trying to defend a child on a reality show from all the attacks from posters. The child in question obviously has mental/emotional problems and I was attacked for pointing it out and asking people to rethink their snarky comments. They even deleted the post where I said I was disturbed by how passionately people were attacking a child instead of considered the fact that the child was handicapped.

I also liked TWOP a lot but I was shocked that my account was suspended for spreading positive energy instead of negative energy. Although I guess people whose internet lives revolve around posting nasty comments about children they&#039;ve never met are already at the bottom of the gene pool.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>My account was suspended for exactly the same thing! I was trying to defend a child on a reality show from all the attacks from posters. The child in question obviously has mental/emotional problems and I was attacked for pointing it out and asking people to rethink their snarky comments. They even deleted the post where I said I was disturbed by how passionately people were attacking a child instead of considered the fact that the child was handicapped.</p>
<p>I also liked TWOP a lot but I was shocked that my account was suspended for spreading positive energy instead of negative energy. Although I guess people whose internet lives revolve around posting nasty comments about children they&#8217;ve never met are already at the bottom of the gene pool.</p>
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		<title>By: Dan</title>
		<link>http://eskimobliss.com/2008/05/02/wtf-twop/#comment-1425</link>
		<dc:creator>Dan</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 28 Apr 2010 04:22:56 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I got banned for ragging on a poster who cursed out QVC host Lisa Robertson without reason. No good deed goes unpunished, apparently...especially when it&#039;s a good deed posted on a site run by fascists.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I got banned for ragging on a poster who cursed out QVC host Lisa Robertson without reason. No good deed goes unpunished, apparently&#8230;especially when it&#8217;s a good deed posted on a site run by fascists.</p>
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		<title>By: List of criticisms and complaints against TwoP &#171; Imaginary Lands</title>
		<link>http://eskimobliss.com/2008/05/02/wtf-twop/#comment-1401</link>
		<dc:creator>List of criticisms and complaints against TwoP &#171; Imaginary Lands</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 04 Feb 2010 01:15:50 +0000</pubDate>
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		<title>By: Spike</title>
		<link>http://eskimobliss.com/2008/05/02/wtf-twop/#comment-1319</link>
		<dc:creator>Spike</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 19 Sep 2009 22:47:35 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Yeah, the TWOP mods are getting RIDICULOUS. They are the most anal-retentive skirt-grippers I&#039;ve ever run into on the Web.

I get that they don&#039;t want the board to descend into madness as a mess like MediaDomain has, but they are too far to the other end of the spectrum. 

Mars and Bayless are the worst but hardly the only ones. And what makes me truly angry is that they are so ARBITRARY about everything they do. Applies to whoever they want, when they feel like it. 

I think it&#039;s time to find - or establish - competition so that TWOP can slink into irrelevance.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Yeah, the TWOP mods are getting RIDICULOUS. They are the most anal-retentive skirt-grippers I&#8217;ve ever run into on the Web.</p>
<p>I get that they don&#8217;t want the board to descend into madness as a mess like MediaDomain has, but they are too far to the other end of the spectrum. </p>
<p>Mars and Bayless are the worst but hardly the only ones. And what makes me truly angry is that they are so ARBITRARY about everything they do. Applies to whoever they want, when they feel like it. </p>
<p>I think it&#8217;s time to find &#8211; or establish &#8211; competition so that TWOP can slink into irrelevance.</p>
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		<title>By: WaxOnWaxOff</title>
		<link>http://eskimobliss.com/2008/05/02/wtf-twop/#comment-1272</link>
		<dc:creator>WaxOnWaxOff</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 15 May 2009 17:08:30 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Yeah, TWoP is really starting to get ridiculous.  I&#039;m currently &quot;suspended&quot; until Sunday.  Why?  I have no idea.  I can only guess it had something to do with the AI board since that&#039;s the last place I&#039;d posted.  Of course, this was a mere week after been warned on the TAR board for using the phrase &quot;I don&#039;t understand the attitude about...&quot;  For that, I was told to &quot;watch my phraseology&quot; and told that I wasn&#039;t allowed to comment on other posters&#039; &quot;opinions.&quot;  Really?  Since when?  One of the most popular acronyms on the TWoP boards is &quot;ITA&quot; (I totally agree).  So, apparently it&#039;s OK to acknowledge AGREEMENT with others&#039; opinions, just not any disagreement. 

In fact, using the word &quot;attitude&quot; was (I thought) a NICER way of referring to the blatant hostility being expressed by other posters than using the words &quot;blatant hostility&quot; but what do I know?  

The funniest thing about TWoP is that here&#039;s a site that will let its posters cuss like sailors on topics without blinking an eye, but will ban those same posters for &quot;lack of manners&quot; for daring to ask why someone holds a certain opinion.

Go figure.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Yeah, TWoP is really starting to get ridiculous.  I&#8217;m currently &#8220;suspended&#8221; until Sunday.  Why?  I have no idea.  I can only guess it had something to do with the AI board since that&#8217;s the last place I&#8217;d posted.  Of course, this was a mere week after been warned on the TAR board for using the phrase &#8220;I don&#8217;t understand the attitude about&#8230;&#8221;  For that, I was told to &#8220;watch my phraseology&#8221; and told that I wasn&#8217;t allowed to comment on other posters&#8217; &#8220;opinions.&#8221;  Really?  Since when?  One of the most popular acronyms on the TWoP boards is &#8220;ITA&#8221; (I totally agree).  So, apparently it&#8217;s OK to acknowledge AGREEMENT with others&#8217; opinions, just not any disagreement. </p>
<p>In fact, using the word &#8220;attitude&#8221; was (I thought) a NICER way of referring to the blatant hostility being expressed by other posters than using the words &#8220;blatant hostility&#8221; but what do I know?  </p>
<p>The funniest thing about TWoP is that here&#8217;s a site that will let its posters cuss like sailors on topics without blinking an eye, but will ban those same posters for &#8220;lack of manners&#8221; for daring to ask why someone holds a certain opinion.</p>
<p>Go figure.</p>
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		<title>By: Chasafras</title>
		<link>http://eskimobliss.com/2008/05/02/wtf-twop/#comment-1265</link>
		<dc:creator>Chasafras</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 22 Apr 2009 22:23:42 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Bayliss banned me from TWoP over an innoculous comment over on the True Blood site where I simply stated that if the show went the way of the books, that eventually I wouldn&#039;t like one of the main characters. I got a little blurb the next time I logged in that just said, &quot;WOW! Banned!&quot; and when I sent e-mails trying to find out exactly what I did to get banned, of course I got no response. The site touts itself as being without pity, but apparently only the moderators are allowed to be without pity and the rest of us have to be &quot;nice&quot;. I waited until recently to resign up using a different e-mail so that I can talk to my buddies on my favorite reality show site, where I have never been treated poorly. I will definitely be sending in a complaint to the higher powers and hoping that something is done with it! Thanks for the heads up and I am glad to know it is not just me!</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Bayliss banned me from TWoP over an innoculous comment over on the True Blood site where I simply stated that if the show went the way of the books, that eventually I wouldn&#8217;t like one of the main characters. I got a little blurb the next time I logged in that just said, &#8220;WOW! Banned!&#8221; and when I sent e-mails trying to find out exactly what I did to get banned, of course I got no response. The site touts itself as being without pity, but apparently only the moderators are allowed to be without pity and the rest of us have to be &#8220;nice&#8221;. I waited until recently to resign up using a different e-mail so that I can talk to my buddies on my favorite reality show site, where I have never been treated poorly. I will definitely be sending in a complaint to the higher powers and hoping that something is done with it! Thanks for the heads up and I am glad to know it is not just me!</p>
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		<title>By: herrlosse</title>
		<link>http://eskimobliss.com/2008/05/02/wtf-twop/#comment-1263</link>
		<dc:creator>herrlosse</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 07 Apr 2009 15:32:52 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Na, Mars is alright. Bayliss is a douche though definitly. Sun seems to be the one has most of a problem with me. Havent come across Nikita though. Gadget is the coolest and laid back.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Na, Mars is alright. Bayliss is a douche though definitly. Sun seems to be the one has most of a problem with me. Havent come across Nikita though. Gadget is the coolest and laid back.</p>
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		<title>By: Wiley</title>
		<link>http://eskimobliss.com/2008/05/02/wtf-twop/#comment-1143</link>
		<dc:creator>Wiley</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 20 Feb 2009 01:15:51 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I just got banned again (I periodically go through these cycles where I have enough patience with TWoP to setup a new account there).

You have to take my word that I&#039;m one of the least &quot;trollish&quot; people out there.  I never get in fights.  I don&#039;t insult people.  If I break rules, they&#039;re petty ones and unintentional, and I never make the same mistake again if its been pointed out to me.

But TWoP and its &quot;leaders&quot; are evil.  Petty tinpot power-mad snide uncompromising lazy and often outright rude.  They &quot;see&quot; attitude in posters which is often manufactured out of whole cloth, or often don&#039;t even bother with that pretense and simply manufacture &quot;strikes&quot; against people for obscure &quot;rules&quot; hidden DEEP within 15-20 page long &quot;Ask the Admin&quot; topics.  

For example, I was recently banned for mentioning the contents of a Promo in a show topic.   NOWHERE was this indicated as a rule, not in their 15 page &quot;Ask&quot; topic, nor in the FAQ for the forum, nor in the FAQ for the whole board.  There WAS a &quot;Promo discussion&quot; topic, but nowhere in THAT topic either was a statement that Promos could ONLY be discussed (or apparently even MENTIONED) there.  My email to the Admin (I don&#039;t recall if it was TWOP Mars or TWOP Bayliss) was polite and to the point, but I was told &quot;You should have known better&quot;.  That was it.

They&#039;ve done that innumerable times with me.  Usually the SAME two people, Twop Mars and Twop Bayliss.  MINOR nitpicky rules which always appear to be forum specific and very badly documented.  Over I think 4 accounts I&#039;ve had there I&#039;ve been &quot;tweaked&quot; for 18 or 19 REALLY minor things, given massive attitude if I politely asked for clarification or further instruction, and as a result been tossed out on my ass, usually with a final VERY snide note in the admin panel which pops up.  I&#039;ve rarely been more insulted for less cause so often in my life.

The most ridiculous excuse used by them appears to be this &quot;board on board&quot; stuff, which they basically use however they want.  I got tweaked for the phrase &quot;you guys&quot;.  I am NOT kidding.  &quot;You guys&quot; meant I was breaking some sacred board on board rule.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I just got banned again (I periodically go through these cycles where I have enough patience with TWoP to setup a new account there).</p>
<p>You have to take my word that I&#8217;m one of the least &#8220;trollish&#8221; people out there.  I never get in fights.  I don&#8217;t insult people.  If I break rules, they&#8217;re petty ones and unintentional, and I never make the same mistake again if its been pointed out to me.</p>
<p>But TWoP and its &#8220;leaders&#8221; are evil.  Petty tinpot power-mad snide uncompromising lazy and often outright rude.  They &#8220;see&#8221; attitude in posters which is often manufactured out of whole cloth, or often don&#8217;t even bother with that pretense and simply manufacture &#8220;strikes&#8221; against people for obscure &#8220;rules&#8221; hidden DEEP within 15-20 page long &#8220;Ask the Admin&#8221; topics.  </p>
<p>For example, I was recently banned for mentioning the contents of a Promo in a show topic.   NOWHERE was this indicated as a rule, not in their 15 page &#8220;Ask&#8221; topic, nor in the FAQ for the forum, nor in the FAQ for the whole board.  There WAS a &#8220;Promo discussion&#8221; topic, but nowhere in THAT topic either was a statement that Promos could ONLY be discussed (or apparently even MENTIONED) there.  My email to the Admin (I don&#8217;t recall if it was TWOP Mars or TWOP Bayliss) was polite and to the point, but I was told &#8220;You should have known better&#8221;.  That was it.</p>
<p>They&#8217;ve done that innumerable times with me.  Usually the SAME two people, Twop Mars and Twop Bayliss.  MINOR nitpicky rules which always appear to be forum specific and very badly documented.  Over I think 4 accounts I&#8217;ve had there I&#8217;ve been &#8220;tweaked&#8221; for 18 or 19 REALLY minor things, given massive attitude if I politely asked for clarification or further instruction, and as a result been tossed out on my ass, usually with a final VERY snide note in the admin panel which pops up.  I&#8217;ve rarely been more insulted for less cause so often in my life.</p>
<p>The most ridiculous excuse used by them appears to be this &#8220;board on board&#8221; stuff, which they basically use however they want.  I got tweaked for the phrase &#8220;you guys&#8221;.  I am NOT kidding.  &#8220;You guys&#8221; meant I was breaking some sacred board on board rule.</p>
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		<title>By: primosprimos</title>
		<link>http://eskimobliss.com/2008/05/02/wtf-twop/#comment-1124</link>
		<dc:creator>primosprimos</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 22 Dec 2008 18:10:44 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Bayliss aka Jacob and Nikita (well named) are really two sad little putzes.

However, having seen Jacob&#039;s picture on MySpace, I can understand why someone like him is relegated to the power he gets from being a dictator at a message board. The guy does NOT get any. Seriously.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Bayliss aka Jacob and Nikita (well named) are really two sad little putzes.</p>
<p>However, having seen Jacob&#8217;s picture on MySpace, I can understand why someone like him is relegated to the power he gets from being a dictator at a message board. The guy does NOT get any. Seriously.</p>
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		<title>By: Rudy2</title>
		<link>http://eskimobliss.com/2008/05/02/wtf-twop/#comment-1114</link>
		<dc:creator>Rudy2</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 07 Dec 2008 14:29:22 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I don&#039;t watch many TV shows so my forum reading on TWoP is limited -- thankfully I&#039;ve not come across Bayliss.  However, Nikita, the mod whom this blog&#039;s author apparently ran afoul of, has got to be as bad!  I&#039;ve been warned twice by Nikita on Top Chef boards.  The latest was I wrote &quot;Enough about the x, y, and z.  Everyone&#039;s palate is different&quot; or something to that effect -- and was edited and knuckle-rapped for rudeness and board-on-boards.  So now an expression, in a forum where people debate many aspects of a show, of &quot;Eh, enough already . . . &quot; is rude?  Nikita must be a seriously hypersensitive person.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I don&#8217;t watch many TV shows so my forum reading on TWoP is limited &#8212; thankfully I&#8217;ve not come across Bayliss.  However, Nikita, the mod whom this blog&#8217;s author apparently ran afoul of, has got to be as bad!  I&#8217;ve been warned twice by Nikita on Top Chef boards.  The latest was I wrote &#8220;Enough about the x, y, and z.  Everyone&#8217;s palate is different&#8221; or something to that effect &#8212; and was edited and knuckle-rapped for rudeness and board-on-boards.  So now an expression, in a forum where people debate many aspects of a show, of &#8220;Eh, enough already . . . &#8221; is rude?  Nikita must be a seriously hypersensitive person.</p>
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